#9 Rachel Scheer & Dr. Jay Yepuri, MD – Collaboration between Nutrition & GI for health

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the gut check project where we all check our egos at the door with your host, Dr. Kenneth Brown, MD I’m Eric Rieger. Ken it is episode number nine. Do you think that this is

so exciting? Nine Lives and cats? There’s nine it’s a great number.

It’s a it’s awesome number. Here’s the Seinfeld? I think it was no No, no, it was a Ferris Bueller nine times I was thinking that every time I heard the they faded number nine.

This is so exciting though because we’re starting a little traction we’re being you know, I’m being messaged by people. This is really fun. And I cannot tell you how excited I am about today’s show today show

it we actually have we actually have a real offer. We’ve got viewers who have been watching us weekly, and now we have something that we can actually give back to them. And then well, though you’re right, I’m pretty fired up. In fact, today’s episode is unlike any other we have an offer for everyone. Here to tell us about that offer and help us explain it is going to be Rachel shear certified sports nutritionist and fitness model as well as Dr. J. Dr. Jay Yepuri. And he is of course a Board Certified gastroenterologist and he happens to serve as the CMO
of Riduzone, which a lot of our listeners have probably heard us talk about.

Absolutely. So this is not the reason why I’m so excited about this. Yes, we’re going to be doing an offer. But more importantly, our two guests are absolutely amazing people So Rachel has this fantastic story. She’s super smart. She’s a nutritionist, and she’s able to stay in incredible shape and she’s going to help our listeners, hopefully look a little bit like her someday. So we were just on Mojo. And I had to laugh that Brad Brad encouraged her that she’s off to a good start, which was pretty funny.

Yeah, and I just hope she can hold together before she and

and, and like, like many people that are very passionate about their jobs. She has a hero’s journey that she’s gonna tell us about and she’s gonna explain how she ended up doing this and you know, getting her degree at Baylor and overcoming some obstacles and all of the above, which is awesome. And so that’s going to be super excited to talk to her about that. She’s a big advocate of ultra until my baby. That’s how her and I get to know each other. And she’s going to talk about proper way to eat properly to exercise and it might surprise you because a lot of people are probably being way too restrictive or they’re being too they’re trying To do this in that, and she’s gonna explain how to look like she does and still eat pretty much what you want. Sure,

you know and getting to know her story little bit better. It’s really cool because she has her own personal journey to that relates to a lot of people that you may you may think that people that want to come on and talk about things like that, that their story doesn’t relate to you that is not the case at all.

She would just recently spoke at the Millionaire Mastermind. There’s over 500 people that pay a lot of money to be in a mastermind group and they had her as a speaker discussing this and she’s really open about that. Because when you look at somebody that has overcome some struggles, you realize, Hey, I can do this. And there’s people
like that out there that have learned how to use nutrition, which I consider the foundation of all health, because if you have good nutrition, you have a healthy gut and all health begins and ends in the gut. Sure. And she also collaborates with lots of other gastroenterologist including yourself to help serve the people that you serve. And it’s a great unified front. She’s great collaborator in that capacity. Absolutely. And then somebody that I completely respect. So somebody that we have on that his name is Dr. Jay Yepuri up. He is an influencer in
the gastroenterology world. Definitely. He was the former president of the Texas Society of gastrointestinal, or gi TSGE, whatever that stands for, but anyways, he was the he was the president of that. He got a political
science degree from Penn University, super smart. I’ve worked with him for the last 17 years. He’s an influencer, always doing the right thing, always looking at things from both a political and a patient centric view. How do we do the right thing politically and make sure that the patient gets the best of everything. We need more people like him out there, talking about laws making sure that patients get access to health care, and he’s also the chief medical officer of the product. Riduzone and we’re going to get into that. And that’s super cool. Also, if you haven’t heard of it, stay tuned because it is so neat. We’re going to cover so much ground today. That’s why I’m so excited. I respect both our guests so much. And I’m gonna learn a ton every single guest we have had, I’ve learned a lot. And that’s one of the reasons why we do this show.

And without question, one more thing to add to Jay, I’d like to say that I’ve doing anesthesia, I’ve gotten to work with a lot of different physicians and all different kinds of capacities. But the people that often times stick out, are those that you can tell are altruistic and function is real patient advocates. And that’s definitely Dr. Jay. He’s been that way since the day that I’ve known him. And it’s, it’s no wonder why it’s put him into the position that he’s in. Now. The cool thing is, is that either one of these guests could easily we could definitely have either one of them on specifically to talk about what all of their interests are just by themselves, but they’ve joined together because they actually want to talk about this offer. That’s coming up later.

Absolutely. More than likely, we will have each one of these guests back on to give them a full hour and a half to say what’s ever on their mind. But today we have such a big offer that we will leave that to really important people should announce it with us.

Sure, without question, real quick paying the bills. Don’t forget that if you ever suffer from bloating, go to love my tummy.com forward slash spoony. That’s love my tummy.com forward slash spoony. use the code spoony. It’s also printed on that landing page whenever you get there and save some money on the world’s only NSF certified for sport product for IBS symptoms and bloating. And if you’re wondering what NSF is, well, Rachel is going to explain that. Yeah, she might just be a little bit familiar with it with being in sports, nutrition. And, of course, to all of the people that might just clarify one

thing really great. Sorry. Yeah, one of the things that I have been told by I was message said that whenever you talk about the landing page, people did not realize how much money they can save when they Put in that code spoonie. So not only do you go there and get it, but you’re going to save a lot of money with spoonie. So everybody listening, use that code, use it because it saves money. Definitely a lot of money. That’s right.

And just to follow after that, I kind of lost a train of thought there. Oh, yeah. This last week, received lots of email. Keep them coming. I appreciate all of the comments that we had last week of Chris being on episode number eight. Christmas song, of course, was the market expert for him. But I’m still getting requests for information on how to connect with James Carol. And of course, how do I find Dr. Wade McKenna, if you want to know anything about stem cells, go back to that episode, so much so that he was spotted on our episode by someone making a docu series about stem cells. And now Dr. Wade McKenna is going to be featured in

it. Oh, that’s awesome. That crazy man. One thing I learned from that and I just that I respect him as a doctor that stood by his guns and realized that he developed this kind of patent on something. Sure. And just to reiterate that a better thing came out anyway, you’re better I’m going to use you even though my name’s on this thing that is amazing to me, that just shows pure patient advocacy. So that’s a hard word for me to say

that it looked it looked easy in my brain.

But um, yeah, that’s, I think that they just blown my mind with at the infancy of where stem cell is. Same thing with all these other topics that we’re really trying to tackle here and show you know, try and bring a little
knowledge

definitely. So if you want to connect with the show to ask more questions about Dr. Wade McKenna, James Carol. Joy Beckerman Chris Husong anybody that we’ve had on the show Shawn Bryans please go to gut check project .com, and then you will find the Connect tab at the top shoot us an email at any point in time. And if you like the show, all we ask that you do is subscribe and like it and share it with a friend.

Absolutely we’re gaining some traction, you’re going to see today that these, Rachel has a huge social media following go ahead and check out her Instagram page. It’s at Angel at Rachel shear nutrition,

Rachel Scheer Nutrition, that’s correct registry. com, they all pretty much the same place you can find right? And that’s RACHEL SCHEER. And of course, like always, will include all links about our guests, and the offer in the show notes. You can always find us at YouTube channel, gut check project and on iTunes search gut check project. So Absolutely. Well now we’re going to move into a little bit of personal stuff like we normally do and hit some KBMD corner news. So Ken, what’s going on?

I kind of an interesting week. I just came back from Newark, New Jersey, right where I was part of filming our national commercial for otra until I are going to launch a national campaign on TV. That’s always fun to go there and see a total different industry and realize what’s happening and I guess the the takeaway It was good it went
really well was really fun. When I was doing my makeup, I had to laugh because I was this. The makeup artist had all her material out there. And of course as a gastroenterologist The one thing I noticed, I mean, there’s tons
of things was a tube of preparation. Ah, so I grabbed it, and I said, You know, I can help you with this and she’s like, excuse me. And I’m a gastroenterologist she’s like, Oh my gosh, no, I use it for eyes. I put it under people’s eyes. It takes away the bags. I was like, Okay. Yeah, preparation h laid out. If I can fix your

hemorrhoids sounds like she’s fine. Pretty hard to explain that one away.

So I did that. And the kids the usual thing we’ve got my daughter Karla in theater is there learning about wicked so now she wants to go to New York watch wicked and we’ll probably maybe consider going in August when it’s super hot and wants to US Open also, I don’t know but I’m being coerced into going to watch wicked in in New York and my son just came back from Florida where he played in an ITF which is kind of next level 18 and under kind of thing and definitely second round got beat by the 17th ranked player in the world did it proudly played well and the guy that did it pulled him aside and kind of coach them afterwards which I think is the coolest ship and said you’re you’re an up and comer This is awesome work on this work on this, you know, getting feedback. He gave them feedback. This is this is this is what I did when you did this. So yeah, and that’s so it was worth the trip to Lucas. He lost second round, but he loved it. So what’s going on with your family?

The boys are basically just attacking the hoop this this coming weekend. They have a quick tournament. They both played over the weekend. They’ve they played Monday, and that’s that seems to be the agenda. They did go and see
the latest and this is how little I know about superheroes. I know that there is a big blockbuster superhero movie that just came out and

don’t sue spoiler alert this for me.

I wouldn’t do it because I don’t even know the name of it.

But I know that they both know that that’s been the running joke is that don’t do any spoiler alerts everybody. It’s all over Reddit Where?

I don’t know, you don’t have to tune out. I don’t have it.

You’re not gonna do this to our listeners, you’re not gonna explain. No, no, absolutely not. And wife is doing great. She’s really busy this weekend with a bunch of local activities. She’s heavily involved with that. And then I’ve got to run with you actually on a quick business trip out to Arizona. So that pretty much rounds out the week for me.

Yeah, we have one quick shout out to a friend of mine and colleague, Dr. Stuart Ackerman. He’s a partner of mine. You can check them out. He’s a specialist in the pancreas issues biliary us ercp that kind of thing. But he sent me a link to somebody that we both really liked. It’s little dickie.

Oh,

yeah, the rapper. The rapper. Little Dickie just came out with an earth video. And what’s really cool is he sent me a follow up video on YouTube, where he talks about how The way that we are producing our food is affecting
the environment. What I loved about it, and she was talking about the cows producing methane. Oh, and of course that’s right in our wheelhouse. Yeah. So you know, methane when if you have bacteria grow where it shouldn’t be, you’re going to get very bloated. And when that happens, it can affect you. Now, we always talk about our
demographic and our avatar. When we talk about marketing. You really need to dial it in and I was messaged by half bought Bjornsen, he plays the mountain from Game of Thrones. Yeah. And Magnus von Magnussen the guy for me the heavy letter from ESPN, ESPN strong man. Yeah. And they said, you know, we get bloated also, and you’re ignoring our demographic. What? Yeah. And so I spoke with, you know, I spoke with our team at otra until I said, we’re completely ignoring a group of people here. And so we’ve got a new skew for the mountain of Game of Thrones and
Magnus von Magnussen. If you’ll just take over the mic for a second. Yeah. I’m going to go ahead and show you this

I’m just going to narrate what Ken’s doing okay, so he’s stepping away and I don’t know how to do this in golf voice or not if you’re listening through iTunes you can’t see the visual oh he’s opening up the bat oh he’s shutting down like he’s got an atlas stone oh my goodness here is a gigantic green box Mark just like the familiar Atrantil box.

wow

yeah so this is our newest skew it is Atrantil for strong man. It is it is 40 kilograms. Look at you might have thrown you back out. Well, I kind of tweaked it I’m I’m faking it right now auto index and CBD later make sure it calms down that inflammatory response. So no, this is not for strong man. And no, they did not actually messaged me. This is actually a gift for episode number nine from our CEO, Chuck Scott. Oh, super cool, nice. It looks it’s an exact replica of the little one. And we’re going to leave this guy right here at all times. Because
Atrantil we can fix people we help with their bloating even strong man but they don’t have to take that big box now looks nice in that call I thought that was such a cool gesture and it’s super neat and it’s a you know something that we need to get the word out that’s why we’re gonna do a national commercial

now yeah like that and check Scott is the CEO of KBS Research the parent company of Atrantil. So nice work there. There Chuck. I do notice though, getting here at the bottom it says 90 capsules just like the like the regular size Yes. So and he also says to 75 milligrams, just like the regular size are you? There must be a lot of empty
space in these capsules. Well,

knowing that we were initially making this for strong men, you know, each capsules about two inches long and filled with led to really weigh it down. Okay, so that no one can swallow it. Yes.

So, if you if you ordered the large volume here, I’ll try and to it’s going to cost you a lot and shipping and you will not be able to go through a metal detector

and get lead poisoning so don’t do that.

Just Just order the smaller ones.

The bigger one here for you to look at. Okay, no, I had to laugh. Chuck Scott just messaged us and said, Oh my gosh, you had me going. I thought you were serious.

Well, yeah, that’s where Chuck I like that. Yeah.

No, that’s, that’s awesome. I think that is so cool. And, you know, I mean, that’s what we’re trying to do as a company. We’re trying to sponsor spoony radio here. So, you know, tune in what you brought up Morse code last week and a bit chow down and there’s a shout out. Trace trout on there’s a lot of really, really cool shows. And of course, we got our we got our man Patrick, Chef Patrick has got a show. So definitely Awesome.

Well, why don’t you hit up the corner and let us know what’s on the the research page for this week.

So basically, what we always like to try and do is talk about a little bit of science here and I’m gonna try and get through this really quick and it’s going to seem like a lot but I will come full circle and explain it at the variant. Okay, and the reason why I’m doing this is because our guest Dr. Joe Perry happens to be an expert on one of these things.

Right on. Okay, well, let’s, let’s hear about it.

Alright, so I’m a big fan of a PhD named Michele Ross. Oh, me too. She wrote a book called Vitamin Weed. And I think it’s one of the more comprehensive molecular books that I have read. And she covers a lot of ground in here. One of the things that we always talk about is the endocannabinoid system, we all have it just as important as the gastrointestinal system. Although it’s everywhere in the body. If you think of it, what it really does is it
links the neurologic system and the immune system. So it really ties those two together. So it’s extremely important for a lot of different things. The purpose of this is to actually be like a traffic cop and control the amount of nervous about nerve activity going back and forth. So it just kind of makes sure that everything works well. Which is why it works so well and anxiety and autoimmune diseases. So the endocannabinoid system helps deal with physical and emotional stress. Okay, okay. So now what is the cannabinoids Basically, you can take a cannabinoid Phyto cannabinoid, you can synthetically make one, a drug, not a fan of those. Sure. And your body makes them what we’re going to talk about are the cannabinoids that your body makes. Okay? So it’s it gets into a little bit of deep stuff. But the most prominent thing that I want you to keep in mind is that there’s two endocannabinoids that everyone always talks about. Right, Amanda, mind and to ag. Okay, we’re not gonna talk about those, because those are the ones that everybody talks about, and they deserve their own hour each. What I want to talk about are the a typical ones. And then this actually explains why a full spectrum Phytocannabinoid, like the
KBMD brand, right here, powered by Elixinol. And all actually works in a lot of different ways. And that’s one of the reasons why I believe that the full spectrum will always outperform a synthetic cannabinoid or a drug cannabinoid.

Let’s naturally powered it, right. I mean, that’s basically it. The way that nature intended it to happen so of course usually better

Yeah, so even if you know quite a bit about CBD, so if we’ve got our people out there they’re like oh, I know all about it. Yeah, I know about to Ag and and Amanda my Listen up because this is a little bit different. So I’m going to talk about four different endocannabinoids one of them is called PEA, pee. Pee like a grantee. Okay. It actually stands for n. Palma tau l, then no. Lamine originally discovered an egg yolk. kicker to this is that it
has been shown to have a potent anti inflammatory activity and has a role in preventing neuropathic and chronic pain. Wow. One of the problems is that alcohol decreases PDA, okay, so keep that in mind. Because a lot of people try and, you know, a lot of people develop holism or opiate abuse because of chronic pain, a full spectrum. Phyto cannabinoid has PVA in it. So it’s x in synergy with the other main one to Ag and an animal for an entourage effect, meaning it helps those out. And it inhibits an enzyme that breaks it down called f h. So the enzyme FAAH
breaks down your endogenous endocannabinoids. Okay, so that’s one. So this one works on inflammation and chronic pain. Then there’s a super cool one called Oh EA and olio. Less than Nola mean. Oh, EA.

Hmm, does that sound familiar? It does sound familiar. It’s in this bottle that I’m holding my hand for Riduzone. Exactly. What they have in here is their key ingredient,

some Riduzone of the sponsors of Mojo and spoonie. Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Jay Yepuri. You’re coming on the show today? Well, I’m gonna let him talk about why they put a concentrate of VA in a bottle. What I’m going to tell you is that your body makes a movie and it’s been shown to do some pretty cool things. This is produced natural in the small intestine from fatty acids. And the major target is a nother cannabinoid receptor called Pete part alpha. Easy for you to say I know that’s a proliferator activated receptor alpha. Now, that is something that I’m going to be doing quite a bit of writing on because people are alphas are and people are alpha people are
gamma, are associated with inflammatory processes in ulcerative colitis, also the product title Wow. So I’m going to, we’re going to be publishing some really geeky cool stuff. But I just wanted to throw this out there really quick that Oh, EA has been shown to be good for brain health. And believe it or not, it’s actually been shown to increase memories in robots. And it does some pretty cool things for weight loss. But I’m going to leave that to Dr. Yepuri later because that’s where most of the science has been done. But they have shown that this
molecule actually helps with brain and memory.

So wild I mean, basically, we’re talking about natural compounds available to us. To make us feel better and stopping inflammation, isn’t it wild that how many times over the last decade now, have you encountered this, this, this crossroads of stop inflammation, help your neuro neurologic system help the way that you think helped the
way that you sleep? I mean, there’s a lot of connectivity there. And it just keeps going back to all health begins and ends in the gut.

Exactly. And he’s gonna go ahead and explain Dr. Yepuri gonna go ahead and explain about how Riduzone gets converted in the gut into this potent molecule that works. And he’s gonna talk about different science, but I did not know that it actually helped with memory in the brain as well. So it decreases the inflammatory response there.
Awesome. Number three, something a lot of people have heard of DHA right and Docosahexaenoic ino. Ethan No, no, Bunin. These are hard. That’s how can they make acronyms for all these nobody actually says the real word. It’s really hard to Google Now, this is made from the fatty acid d h a, which is fish oil omega three d h EA has been shown to reduce inflammatory gene expression. There’s that word again inflammatory, your body will naturally
produce the hormone dhea, in the adrenal gland in turn, dhEA helps produce other hormones like testosterone and estrogen. Okay, Rachel’s gonna get into that some adrenal fatigue some breno lagging This is the kind of thing that nutritionist work on. And then the last one here is not a nada naraka no Donald dopa me it’s not really clear how it’s made, but it is made in the brain in the hippocampus region. It relieves pain, increases sleepiness and decreases body temperature while relaxing your muscles. Okay, so all those neck all those acronyms those why I brought this up, is because when I give CBD a five full Phyto cannabinoids to my patients, I get all different kinds of responses. Now it makes sense. You could be deficient in one of these. So this short review is
necessary because patients may tell me that they sleep better or their nerve pain is better. Now I can say, oh, if you have insomnia, maybe you’re not a levels are low, or that needs to be increased or if your memory is bad, maybe you need more of a, oh, your sex drive is down. How about increasing that da da. In other words, this is
why a full spectrum high quality CBD can be so effective. It’s filled with all these other benefits that nobody ever talks about.

Nobody ever talks about and but you know, whatever. But a lot of different people have made these connections. If you want to be healthier, if you want to sleep better, if you want to feel they all go together, you just simply have to eat better so that you can sleep better, you have to sleep better, so you can think better. You have to sleep better so you can repair your body. It’s It’s amazing. We’ve only got that that was every half hours so dadgum Oh, I know but everyone tuned in now because we’re gonna have our two guests on and let me tell you what
you’re going to watch this live trust me on this is going to be a cool show. We’re going to cover a lot of stuff and it’s the offer that’s most important. Yes. Rachel shear is coming on with Dr. Jay Yepuri to basically
deliver some great news that is happening here hasn’t been announced anywhere else. And trust me you don’t want to miss it, subscribe and share, gut check project iTunes and YouTube SEE A BIT.

So here we are back. We’re setting up we have Rachel shear Rachel, give us a little wave over here.

Thanks for having me on.

Dr. Jay Yepuri is on his way in and we got chef Patrick over there messing with our sign. So that’s a that should be resolved here shortly and Dr. Jay hurries entering the room.

Welcome

Dr. Jay running a little behind as usual. Not a problem.

So we’re Hey, we’re while we’re getting started here on this, the second half hour. Oh yeah, he’s put it on. Get started the second half hour want to welcome have your mic. Oh, I’ve got I’m holding. This one takes Oh, we don’t
have a episode nine not know Episode 90. So we’re going to fix a couple things. I’m going to let the real host Dr
. Kenneth brown handle the setup and I’ll be back in a moment.

So for the record is the first time we’ve attempted to guess at the same time and we are working the kinks out. We got one of the mics that isn’t working, but we have the two most important people in the room here. Rachel, why don’t you go ahead and tell us who you are.

My name is Rachel Scheer and I am a functional medicine nutritionist here in the Dallas Fort Worth area. And I’m also a fitness model that I do bodybuilding and bikini competitions.

And Is that how you met Dr. Jay up on the on the fitness model circuit?

Oh yes, of course. He does a lot of bikini competition. I try to keep them On little bit, you know, the second the second page of the CV if you will. And so, you know, no one no one wants to see that. Just put that up. Yep. Put the mic a little closer. There we go. Yeah, but Dr. J. Quick bio here, what’s going on with you? Where do you come from? Who are you for our listeners? Who am I? Well, so native of Louisville, Kentucky, missing home this weekend because of the Kentucky Derby. Try to make it up as often as I can but been down here in Texas 18 years
and haven’t found a reason to leave yet. So I’ve been fortunate to be your partner in our in our larger group practice for many years now and enjoying working with you in a lot of different different different ways that we have so far. So

absolutely. So Rachel, we went on Mojo earlier for a little bit. We covered a lot of ground in just a very short period of time. But I think one of the coolest things is that you just recently gave a lecture at the
Millionaire Mastermind club, correct?

Yeah, the million dollar mastermind

million dollar mastermind. Tell us a bit about that and why were you chosen do this because that’s a huge honor.

Yes. So the million dollar mastermind was put on by Ryan Stewman. And he’s also known as the Hardcore Closer. And basically, he brought on a ton of different influential people all over United States who are entrepreneurs who have created their own business. And the majority of it was going to be talking about sales in business strategies, but they brought me on as a nutritionist, which was a very different type of platform, and how I built my business and my brand and just being able to share my story. And nutrition is very important, as we know for overall health, but not a lot of people think about it from a business standpoint. So I kind of gave that side of my viewpoint as why nutrition and fitness is so essential with building a business and from an entrepreneurial standpoint.

Right. Why? How did you become so passionate about this and getting the word out about nutrition?

Well, nutrition is something that has always been important to me. My dad suffered from mental illness, I actually grew up in a view unhealthy environment. My mom was very absent for most of my childhood, I ate very unhealthy growing up. And that really prompted me to want to get into nutrition. So I went to Baylor and I studied Nutrition and Dietetics. I picked up weightlifting along those lines. So I always had a very athletic background. But I’ll say that growing up I with nutrition, I wasn’t always doing it the right way necessarily. And along with
that led to a lot of different health issues, specifically related to my gut later on. So I really had to make a lot of different changes with my diet to really figure out what worked best for me. So let me back up and answer.

Do you think that you’re you said you were not making healthy choices because you were trying to become stage ready, you were starting to get into the whole fitness modeling. Tell me about that.

I think there’s a big misconception between diet food and health food necessarily. So we live in a world where, where everything’s focused on weight loss and building muscle and all of that which you may look healthy from the outside like you can lose weight eating two pieces of pizza and a donut per day. But that does not mean you’re going to be healthy. No. And I think that’s a lot of the mindset that we have we think that you know, a
carbohydrate is carbohydrate and fat is a fat when really, that is not the case. I mean, the nutrition of say a sweet potato, which is a carbohydrate is not going to be the same nutritional value as a donut. So that’s a big misconception that I think I see oftentime with what is the American Standard diet?

So I think one of the cool things is that you become very passionate about it I think as a nutritionist turning it into a business as awesome as gastroenterologist Jay I did not get that much training and nutrition during my fellowship Did you?

Well, it’s a great point you bring up Ken and listening to Rachel talk kind of got those wheels turning in my brain. And to echo the point you just made that’s important. We got no training in that regard. I mean that traditional pathways, all based on pharmacology and medications and treatments and interventions and procedures that we do. But these kind of more basic fundamental building blocks. I mean, it’s cliche, but you are what you eat. And I know Rachel’s probably cringing when she hears me say that, but I think it really resonates and rings true in the current era. We have, you know, it’s been, it’s not something that we patients, always talk to us about it. But it’s something we have to defer to someone like Rachel, who’s an expert, because we don’t have that training. Unfortunately,

you know, it’s and that’s something that you and I have talked about where when I sit there, and I actually tell my patients point blank, some of the best knowledgeable people are fitness people, bodybuilders, and extreme
sports like triathletes, because they have to take it to the level where they are so dialed in, and I learned a lot. I learned a lot from my other colleagues who have done that there are people out there. I’ve got a chiropractor friend of mine that we brought up before his name is Dr. Ron Tribendis in the Plano area. He’s an elite triathlete. He’s the first guy that’s talking about nutrition and Whole Foods and things like that. And so what you did is you jumped into this and you started getting into the body changing type of mind came from a background
of it sounds like a very difficult childhood. Yes. And you wanted to take control of your life. Yes. And then you did something and you paid a bit of a price that we deal with patients all the time that come in. So tell me what happened after that.

So I was putting my body through a lot of stress, I would say dietary stress, physical stress with training very hard. And then a lot of just mental stress as well, too. And stress is one of the main initiators of illness and
over the course of you know, training really hard and really trying to die down. I developed severe gastrointestinal issues in the process. where basically I remember I couldn’t eat anything anymore without being in pain. I would be severely distended. I had a lot of chronic blood Brain fog. I mean, I was miserable in even though from the outside that I may have looked healthy, I was definitely not healthy at all. So that really prompted my
change in with nutrition and going more into that functional functional medicine side of nutrition.

I want to get to that in a second, what is the most common patient that you see in your office? Joe?

I mean, you know, I can, as you know, we see the full variety of digestive and liver issues. But I would say it is not a day that goes by that a patient doesn’t come in with some of the issues that that that Rachel is described, that we don’t have a blood test for necessarily that we don’t have an X ray to do that we don’t have a procedure that we can do to assess, but it’s it’s all part of being thoughtful, careful listening, taking a good history, as we call it. And and part of that now as Rachel’s brought to light is understanding what our patients are eating what they’re putting in their bodies that can help contribute to the symptoms. This is a new developing, burgeoning area of interest. Research and in clinical endeavor, and it’s exciting. I mean, just to see what’s coming out of this.

I think it’s kind of a it’s funny because even somebody that like myself who considers myself more of a functional gastroenterologist, I do podcasts, I’ll go on people shows, and I’m a, unfortunately, I want to try everything to see if there’s something that’s there so that I can offer to my patients. So I will try everything first and then do it. And we have a mutual friend Kevin Wilson, who’s actually my primary care doctor, and I had to laugh because I got blood work done, and he called me up and he’s like, Dude, what is going on? I’m like, everything I’m doing. Everything’s like, What do you mean? Like this supplement this I’m not like, I’m trying to figure it
out. Well, I overshot it and my bloodwork got really screwed up. Liver tests went up, my cholesterol got all messed up. I went okay, can’t do everything all at once. And what I did, the real big mistake that I did is I played partial keto. I did dirty keto where I was like keto keto when I wanted and sort of cheated what I wanted. And that’s the Exact worst thing that you could do. So even when you’re living it, you don’t realize that you’re
doing some of these things. So like you’re living it, you’re eating bad. So how did you end up correcting all of that?

Well, I went from a lot of different doctors to doctors and what blew my mind is like, no one ever talked about nutrition. They never went back to that. What I was putting into my body, I mean, I did endoscopy, colonoscopy, CT scan MRI, I did everything and I always just got slapped with the label of IBS, just irritable bowel syndrome, which to me, that’s not a diagnosis at all. It’s just an accumulation of symptoms.

Did anybody offer you an anti depressant throughout this process?

Oh, yeah, antidepressant I was offered you know, laxatives I was offered many different things. I mean, I was even diagnosed with pancreatitis at one point. So I had a ton of misdiagnosis. And I always was just given medication and medication and no one really went back down to what is going to be that root cause what is causing this in the first place. I went to see you and I think You were one of the first doctors who actually saw something that a lot of doctors didn’t see where I had a little bit of a hypermobility going on there, too. And that was one of my issues. And then I ended up going to the Mayo Clinic who found that I actually had a genetic defect for athletics, danlos syndrome, as well, too. So that could have been exacerbated by heavy weight lifting. But again, it still came back to diet. And once I really looked at my diet, and I had to eliminate a lot of different things that are just in the in the standard American diet. That was when I really started to make progress and see results into really feel better overall.

I think that Jay, you and I have had, you know, discussions about this. You’re a thought leader in the industry. I mean, you’re recognized on a national stage, and both of us wish we weren’t so busy. I mean, it’s we’re
really too busy. And there’s something going on here where people are getting sicker.

It really is an epidemic. I mean, I think, you know,

We see these folks every day. And and again, we’re we continue to struggle with a lack of, I guess we’re all creatures of habit, we want to be able to offer the test, we want to be able to offer the treatment, we want to be able to offer a cure. These are complex issues. And and they’re very individualized. And I think the one thing that both of us have realized over time is one approach to one patient is going to be different from another patient. And it’s not. It’s not boilerplate. And it’s not, you know, page 32 of the textbook. It’s going to be very individual approach, patient by patient. But you’re right. I mean, these patients are filling our offices, and we’re happy to help them. But we we need more resources. And we mean we need we need things that we can go back to to be able to offer our patients.

And I think that every time that I get a patient where I struggle, and we figure something out, I become better I learned and I know I’ve met all of your partners. I’ve got my partners and just about everybody I know in our group, digestive health associates of Texas D hat. This is a very conscientious group. This is a smart group, like I think we’ve collected some of the best gastroenterologists in the country. in one area, and everybody wants people to get better. So, unfortunately, when a patient comes in, and we don’t do a colon and egd, when you
start thinking outside the box when you start thinking about the functional aspect of it, so when you said you’re a functional nutritionist, can you expand on that a little bit?

Yeah. So functional medicine basically means looking at that root cause. So for example, someone goes into the doctor, and let’s say they have diabetes, and we throw them on insulin, and then we send them on their way. Well, that’s not really addressing the root cause that just addressing what it’s addressing the insulin resistance,
which is a part of it, but the root cause would be their diet, their lifestyle, their lack of exercise. So that’s what I’m really trying to do with my nutrition practice. I’m looking at that root cause. Why do we have this problem in the first place and what can we do to restore function, and a lot of it ultimately comes back to lifestyle or diet, lack of exercise, that is the main initiators of chronic diseases. today’s world.

I think when I talk to people, one of the things that I discuss his guests are all just I believe that there’s three pillars of health. One of them is gut health. Absolutely. All health begins and ends in the gut to sleep. We are chronically fatigued society, and three brain health. And you know, I discussed on that article in the beginning, they’re about these different Phyto cannabinoids and help with brain health. I mean, when you address a patient that has something like this, I mean, what is your What is your methodology to try to figure out how you’re going to help this person?

Yeah, I mean, I think your the approach you outlined these three pillars is is is key. I think this this concept of sleep hygiene is something that’s been under recognized and under appreciated for a long period of time.
And these are not mutually exclusive pillars, right? I mean, they feed into one another that the lack of sleep increases cortisol levels you eat as a result, you feed the beast when those cortisol levels are up. So it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. So I think the those three really do feedback on one another and they’re not mutually exclusive in any way. But I agree. I mean, I think again, it goes back to this individual approach to the patient. And trying to understand exactly what that causes, as Rachel so eloquently put to help that patient.

Yeah, I think it’s so cool that you chose this functional medicine route. The other thing I think is really cool is that you chose a very hard field to maintain as somebody who’s always worked out and I’m, you know,
I’m pushing 50 now and I got to try and work out harder to do it and all this other stuff. Tell me about the lifestyle of somebody that actually gets ready to go on stage.

Well, it’s definitely a completely different mindset I could say like the diet is the least of my problems for me and the workouts that is just kind of engraved in my day to day routine now, I love working out. I love the nutrition and I love you know, fueling my body appropriately. But the whole mindset of having to get up on stage and preparation and the timing of food intake. It definitely takes it to a whole nother nother level. You know for general person If we could just focus on Whole Foods and healthy foods and eliminating processed and artificial foods that’s going to really make a huge deal on their health. But for someone who’s let’s say, an Olympic athlete or someone who’s like a bodybuilder, or trying to get to a certain level, things have to be a little bit more dialed in when it comes to their carbohydrate, their fat, their protein intake, and that definitely takes a lot more concentration and a lot more work to really figure that out.

I think it’s fascinating because I just got in the mail in the book Ben Greenfield, second revision of his beyond training. Have you? Are you familiar with who Ben Greenfield is? A little bit? Yeah, yeah. So Ben, I did his podcast. Ben is a former bodybuilder than triathlete. And then now he’s just a big proponent of his brand. He’s got a brand called tie on K. io and super cool guy. But in his book, his intro, the first chapter is the description of a 50 year old guy who’s tried to maintain his try to be a triathlete. And in the Process became skinny fat increases stress started having injuries and all this other stuff. And it just shows that in this desire to maintain health sometimes we miss the big picture.

Hey, Can Can you hear me? Oh yeah, hey, it’s Eric. I’m all here in the garage.

I was feeling really lonely.

I’m like I run out. There really wasn’t a problem on its head to go outside so I could help them Park some cars so

kept wondering, trying to

know so it’s a mystery. Well, just to add about talking about Ben Ben is actually going to come up to demonstrate to his audience, he actually saw Ben and his helper Angelo akili. He’s going to come to North Texas, so that we can do a colonoscopy on someone who has gone through the quote unquote skinny fat. And that being basically he him working in nutrition, just like Rachel does. And then of course, Dr. Jay Yepuri working in gastroenterology.
I think that something is really cool about the two people sitting across the table from you is that these are collaborators and they can collaborate and they want to do something for their audiences much like what Ben wants to do. So why don’t we kind of talk a little bit about what it is that we want to do for the people and then we
can really kind of get into that for the next whole hour?

Yeah, absolutely. So one of the things we’re talking about here, we’ve got a brilliant gastroenterologist and a brilliant nutritionist. Dr. Jay Yepuri, spends a lot of his free time advocating for patients on a political level. He has a political science degree from Penn University. Why did you choose that, by the way? Political Science? Yeah.

Well, in a previous life, I thought I was going to be a lawyer, and even become a lobbyist. Spent some time working on Capitol Hill, between and after college and realized over time, that wasn’t for me. But what I liked about policy was it’s a field that makes you have to take a lot of information, understand it, digest it, no pun intended, and, and then be able to make arguments from it. And that’s Pretty much like medicine, you got to learn a lot, be able to process it and be able to assimilate it and then bring it back out in order in order to take
care your patients, right.

I mean, I’ve, from my standpoint, admittedly, when you start medicine, you work really hard to get there. And then you become very selfish. Because you’re trying to start your practice, you’re trying to feed your family, it becomes, you know, this is my, this is my gig. So I’ve always watched you from the very beginning, always be involved on the political stage. Always try and spread the message, always trying to you’ve been running the the ACG practice management thing that I’ve been part of a couple times the practice management group. So what what we need is people with a voice that have a stage, they can do something like this. And then Rachel, you’ve got the
functional nutrition background. So one of the reasons our big offer is that we as a group digestive health associates realized that our community and the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex could use a little assistance could use some knowledge could possibly use some vetted help, just in case you’re not eating perfect. You’re not able to go to Whole Foods and get the the wild salmon to get your omega threes to protect your brain, to, you know, all
these other things. And that’s what we’re going to get into in the next half hour. I don’t want to spoil that too much. And I think it’s a really cool thing. Eric, you want to comment on that?

No, I do think it’s a really cool thing. There’s a lot of challenges that people endure whenever they are going to select supplements and just doing anesthesia, both with Dr. Yepuri And with Dr. Brown. I’ve personally seen people come through and they’ll have a litany of things. And then as both of y’all have seen those people leave the clinic whenever y’all done the examination, they’ll say half that stuff they have just isn’t going to work for them. Or I don’t know that I can trust the brands that they’re spending all this money on. So when I saw the two of y’all and the rest of the DHAT group begin to work together to say we’re going to take tackled this issue where we can actually leave the walls of the clinic, use some help from a nutritionist just like Rachel and begin to find the correct type of supplements that would benefit people. And they’ll actually save money. It takes the guesswork out of trying to be a good patient and trying to find health. So I think it’s really pretty awesome.

I think one of the cool things is that you’re able to follow your patient home. And we can give some information. If somebody follows you on Instagram, which by the way, how did you get 260,000 Instagram followers? I’m pretty happy. What are we up to Eric eight or something like that?

Yeah, we just got number nine about a minute ago.

Well, when I started it, I had no idea that will actually grow into be something that big I started it when I was at Baylor and now studying Nutrition and Dietetics. And I just started posting tips and tricks and recipes and things that I found to be motivational for myself and a way to hold myself accountable. And I really wanted to
always to help people. That’s always been my passion. From the beginning, so over time, it just honestly, organically grew. And for me, success has nothing to do about the amount of followers I have or about how much money or status, but how much value I can bring to others and how many lives that I can touch and change. So that’s what’s really been important for me and kind of having that as my foundation, I think, has allowed me to really grow my following and really create that trust also with my audience,

I think very much like taking an oath that we’re going to treat people well. You know, social media has gotten to the point where now you’re held to a certain obligation here, you also have a responsibility to do things correctly.

Yeah, people look up to you. And I think there’s a lot of misinformation even on social media. For example, there was a coach here recently in the Dallas Fort Worth area who was giving a different diet plans and posing herself as a coach and scamming people out of money. So it’s also up to the consumer to do their research when they’re looking for coaches on I’m looking to people for advice. So, yeah, social media has a huge influence. And people do look up to a lot of us.

I think, Eric, you and I were talking about the Netflix special Fyre, where I believe that they are trying to prosecute some of the influencers,

correct? That’s exactly right. Yeah, they’re playing they’re using they’re using their influence for for not good. And I think that DHAT obviously is taking the, the complete opposite approach is they want to guide people that are already turning to them for advice. And these are returning patients. So obviously, you want them to be satisfied.

So I mean, I think that your online reputation speaks for itself. You have an incredible social media presence on online reputation. Patients are saying go see Dr. Your PR it’s the same thing you’re getting as physicians, you are being spoken about and patients trust you. And they’re going to tell their mother’s sister, friend, husband, wife, to go see you and you have an obligation to do that. Also. too, you know, sometimes you get tough cases
.

Well, and it’s this, you know, it’s the community, right. So, you know, as you and Rachel both touched on, it’s this idea that we’re being held accountable. And there’s a lot of ways in which we’re held accountable. But I think as the, you know, we started to realize you were a pioneer in this can, but this idea that our patients are starting to look online and understand and that the doctors that they’re seeing the professionals that they’re seeing the counselors, they’re seeing, you know, this was not well understood, or well fleshed out, you know, six, seven years ago, but clearly over the last five years, as it’s gained momentum, we realize this is how our patients are finding us now. And it’s, it’s, you know, word of it’s the 21st century word of mouth, if you will, and, and, and, you know, I think, unfortunately, there’s still a lot of fraud out there, but what what, hopefully social media, online reputation, patients, being proactive and reviewing doctors, and other providers, is the idea that they’re gonna, they’re gonna it’ll help people Find the right provider for them that’s going to help get them where they need to get to.

Totally. And I think that you probably, if you’re going to put yourself out there so what I do admire about your Rachel is that number one, you get up on stage with very little clothes, which I would not be able to do, I would have to. If I did some sort of stage competition, it would be like jumpsuit things are, you know, this is why I gotta have a

bikini competitions games. Again, it’s better for everybody.

Well, you know what I mean? I was following you for a long time on Instagram and your bikini competition. You know, I ended up being the last follower. I hung on there as long as I could. And I

appreciate that.

I’m looking right now, where is it?

There were some complications, they asked that it was taken down. So

I think that one of the requirements of bikini modeling is manscaping. And you know,

we’ll leave it at that.

Nothing to add to that.

No, but I think that So, one of the things that Jay and I have to deal with which sometimes is a very good thing is the negative review. And you I, sometimes it’s valid, sometimes it’s not. But very often it’ll tell me that
if they warned me if something tried to call couldn’t get through, it’s things that we’re always working on in the business aspect. That’s one person that was probably 20 people. And we really do acknowledge that. And, you know, the person that helps me out with that, my friend, Keith Kaiser who looks at these and says, okay, you’re seeing a trend here, we need to sit down with your office manager possibly talk that maybe XYZ is broken. So we I use these reviews as a way to grow as well not just you know, say, Okay, yeah, this is kind of going well.
Do you ever get any negative things on your Instagram with 259,000 people?

Oh, of course, when you put yourself out there to over 250,000 people. You’re going to get people who give you negative reviews and always have something to say. But I think it’s also just taking it as a grain of salt. And of course, I like to listen if there’s any type of feedback that I can take and improve myself with. But also just kind of staying out of that negativity, and just focusing on the people who I can actually benefit. I mean, that’s going to be what’s most important to me.

Okay, so one of the things I may be weird people probably think I’m all my share, but my kids don’t have phones. And I have a 14 year old, a 12 year old and the reason is, is because I discovered a YouTube video early on,
which discussed how they’re the equivalent of getting likes is a little dopamine release, very similar to other things that you can become addicted to. And ultimately, when you are depleted in doping, your set or basically when you release dopamine, your serotonin goes down. So your happiness is serotonin, your pleasures dopamine, and the phones really can do that to you, because it consumes you. And so I let my children decide right now they
have chosen to say you know what, we’re just going to kind of avoid that right now, which I’m kind of happy. About it’s I don’t know how much longer I can do they will can. I hate to cut you off but we got about one minute left before we have to take our four minute break and I do want to let everyone know that Rachel shear and Dr. Joe Perry will be joining us and then for the next hour, but before anybody has to they have to check out and they want to learn more can go ahead and hold that that box of just so people kind of get a preview of what we’re
going to be talking about in the next hour. That is the DHAT box. And if you want information without any cost to you to be sent to you as soon as it’s available, go to D hat box.com. It’s dhatbox.com and then you will be some of the first in the country to be given the opportunity to check it out.

anything more to add please.

Quick so this is we just got to know you guys over this first half hour and now we’re going to get into some super fun stuff like Riduzone love this product Jays going to get into that about the science of that. We’re going to talk about the DHAT box and about different supplements that Rachel likes to use. Do look this great and stay in shape so come back for the next half hour. We’re going to get into the science part of it. This can be fun.

Ken brown here host of gut check project with my co host, Eric Rieger. Eric, we’ve been seeing Mojo guys over there and over here it’s boonie talking about trying to for a bloating I’ve seen in my practice that I’ll try and tell us a whole lot more than just the building product.

Yes, it does a whole lot more than just fix bloating because of the polyphenols that you find 10 Atrantil,

you’re exactly right. The polyphenols are those molecules that we find in the Mediterranean diet. It makes vegetables and fruits very colorful. What are some of the things that these polyphenols do Eric these polyphenols can actually stop inflammation,

they can help you have more energy, they can help you with anti aging and polyphenols are great for athletes.

It sounds like it’s gonna help a whole lot more people than just bloating tell me how everybody should be taking outruns you if you want to Dose Atrantil it’s two

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Oh my goodness, we are back. I was having separation anxiety.

I’m back. Sorry. I can’t believe I got stuck out there. It’s rainy. There’s no windows. It seemed kind of always raining without

air. Oh, yeah. No.

There was a glass wall.

It was it was super awkward. It was throwing me off. I kept having to look over there. I’m trapped

in a glass cage of emotion. I wanted to free him.

So sorry, I hate the fact that now that I’m back there we got more serious. That’s That’s the sad part and knows no laughter all the fun stuff is over now. Hey, just a real quick reset. We are gut check project we are on the spoonie networks when the.com of course hosts several shows. You mentioned earlier tres. Shout out chef Patrick, who works as our producer also has a show on there. But did you know that Dr. J, you’re pairing Have you ever met him? He is considering starting a nother health based show on screen network is that about his former career as a bikini model? That’s exactly what just happened.

You know, I think

that’s exactly where it came from.

Failed attempt at bikini modeling and in lack of manscaping.

That’s where that came from.

I can’t imagine what the title is going to be. But as long as manscape works in there, it’s going to be I think it’ll be a hit. It’ll be it’ll be a nice it. It’ll be a hit. Couple of the bills for this next whole hour, be sure to check out love my tummy.com forward slash spoony that’s love my Tummy dot com forward slash 20 that’s where you will find your offer just for listening to spoony and the gut check project to save money on Atrantil. And while we’re here, Dr. Jay where can people go to learn a little bit more about Riduzone

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perfect and Rachel sheer make. make no bones about it. She’s got what an incredible following So Rachel, what is your favorite way for people to connect with you as well?

Well, they can connect with me through Instagram which is pretty simple. It’s at Rachel RACHEL and my last name scheer SCHEER. And that’s going to be where the majority of my social network is going to be found. Also my website, which is again, just my first and last name,

calm, nice, RachelScheer.com RachelScheer.com? Well,

let’s not simple, simple

kiss. Alright, so let’s not lose our momentum on what we’re talking about. Because when I get here, before I had the microphone working, again, is that we’re talking a lot about synergy collaboration. And it always comes with
the right person in mind, which is to benefit the patient. Before you joined us earlier. Jay, I can remember that. You always know your colleagues that are patient centric or patient advocates. And I think that that’s a key reason on why you were chosen to be the CMO, why you’ve never turned away from research and why your patients I’ve seen firsthand don’t just want to be trusting their health decisions with you. They like coming to see you. So knowing that we’re putting together First, what would you like to take what it what it is that we’re doing as a collaborative to put something together?

Like for the DHAT Box? Okay, so we kind of got into a little bit in the last hour, but the reality is we’re doing something which is absolutely incredible, very innovative. And we’re going to be the first large, single specialty group to put together health in a box. We want to put health in your hands. And that’s going to be our slogan here. So DHAT is arranging a program where we can put the holes where many Americans lack because of nutrition, we can help them out. Rachel and I were just talking about this Rachel, like, for instance, when you see somebody, what are some of the common supplements that you like to have your clients on?

Yeah, so I think there are four essential supplements that everyone should be on. The first one is going to be a high quality multivitamin. I’d like to say that we could get all the nutritional needs from the food that we’re eating, but just the way The American Standard diet is set up. And that’s just not really reality. So getting on a high quality multivitamin to prevent any type of nutritional deficiencies, the second one would be a good probiotic. Again, going back to the gut, that’s going to be the foundation for health. So we need to be promoting a good healthy gut microbiome. The third one would be a vitamin D, so most of the population is deficient in vitamin D, vitamin D, we tend to get from the sun. So especially here in Texas, because it’s so hot, we’re not in the sun very much. And just in general, I’ve done a lot of different micronutrients testing, and the majority of my clients come back with those deficiencies in vitamin D. And then the fourth one would be an omega three fish oil. So again, going back to the standard American diet, we get a lot more omega sixes which are pro inflammatory. And so we need to counteract that by adding in more omega threes which are going to be anti inflammatory. So the four that I think Everyone ought to be on it’s going to be a good multivitamin, a probiotic, vitamin D and omega three fish oil.

So hearing that list, Dr. Brown or Dr. Yepuri, what? What are some of the pitfalls that the patients that come into both of your practices? What? What is it that someone comes in with it? Rachel hit the nail on the head, and we’ll get to it in a moment. But whenever she said high quality probiotic, there is tons of bacteria sources out
there that some people may say it’s beneficial. You said it, you said it. What do you think when someone just walks in with some random probiotic? and and you know, it’s expensive?

Well, you know, it’s a great question. And the issue is, so in Canada, I see this every day in the office, is someone will come in and it’s this. It’s a typical scene, they’ll be sitting there and then on the exam table, they’ll put out the bottles of stuff that they’re taking. And one by one, they’ll go, what do you think about this? What do you think about this? What do you think about this? And most of the time, and and Ken may have the same
experience? I’ll have to say, I don’t know, because these things have not been vetted. We don’t know and I don’t know enough about them. to recommend one or another, and I will generally say that, you know, in general, I think
this is probably safe to use. I don’t know of any downside, but I can’t 100% recommend or give a stamp of approval
to something because it’s not something I vetted, that I know enough about, to be able to give it that
enthusiastic or at least thumbs up. And that’s tough. Because again, you know, as Ken spoke to in the first half, we try to establish these rapport with our patients and establish trust and get that sense of, you know, you can be a real resource for them. We can’t be experts on everything, which again, is white folks like Rachel are so integral and essential to this process. But at the end of the day, you know, it’ll be it’s nice to be able to have a way to have a structured way to have a a it supplements and other and other things that we can recommend to our folks, and that’s where I think the box comes in. So,

yeah, I think that, you know, there was that study that came out were looked at DNA analysis and it shows Almost 79% of the what is in the bottles not on the label 79% of the products that are on big box shelves. So we know
that there is a lot of possibly maybe not complete quality that’s being sold out there because it’s kind of unregulated. And then in your industry when we look at weight loss product, sexual enhancement products, and I can’t remember what the other one is almost 40% of those categories had dangerous pharmaceuticals in them. So in
your industry, so and what I’ve had some patients that have shown up with liver failure, and when you start looking like man, what what’s going on here? So I looked at their list and you’re like, well, what is that ends up being a prohormone and then the pro hormones metabolized in the liver and it’s creating anyways. So it’s not only you may be wasting your money, but there is a slight possibility that you could actually be harming your body.
So that’s why we came together as a group to say look, we’re going to try and vet these. We’re going to try and find things that have Certificate of analysis third party Testing. Let’s see what’s there. There is some science with that. I’m trying to get our group Dr. Harry Sarles. I do this almost every show, I call them out, because
I want to do functional research. I want DRI, which is a Digestive Research Institute, our research division of DHAT, to look at some of these things would you know, really, I just think it’s, we can help people out. So when somebody holds this out, they could say, because there’s no money in doing the research, it’s not that people
don’t want it, it’s just who’s gonna pay for it. That’s the problem.

So and it’s a win win for everyone, right? We we can enthusiastically and confidently recommend supplements to our patients that we know have been vetted, that are tested that don’t have these contaminants and these these the contents into that obviously can be harmful. But then and be able to do that in a way that that we can meet within the confines of that patient physician relationship.

Absolutely. So you know, we I live in this space. I discovered this after we developed I’ll try Until one of the things that we do have is something called NSF certified which is certified for sport. Are you familiar with
that, Rachel? So can you explain to everybody what this is?

What the NSF? Yeah.

Basically, it’s going to be certified by that. I mean, Sports Foundation.

Yeah. So basically what it does is so many Olympic athletes, college athletes, pro UFC fighters and things they they will have random things pop up on the drug test. We paid a lot of money to make sure that what is on our label, we paid a third party company to prove that what we have in the capsules is the same thing that’s on the label as as no doubt so NSF certification and certified for sport is specific in terms of the CBA that they have both with all dietitians and nutritionists with MLB NFL, most NCAA functions, etc. They have to have that mark on there. If it’s OTC and it’s a supplement. And what it says is that company paid not just for their brand,
but every single lot that’s produced is is put through gas chromatography and spectroscopy and they make certain are no contaminants in there that can harm the athlete or make them show up positive for something that they
shouldn’t be taking, in addition to every claim that’s on all the literature has to be vetted and proven for them to do so. So all your clinical trials had to do that. To be to be a part of that. That same approach is what Dan is doing for everything else that’s in there, which I think is awesome. Because you said it yourself. I high quality omega three. Well, that sounds great. But how do I know who’s making what and what happens to be all of all you You said that there were 70 whatever percentage it is that showed up with trace pharmaceuticals in
them,

so yeah, so yeah, so 40% shown up there. A recent article just showed up, they looked at a bunch of different melatonin, you know, so we we subscribe to several different third party sites that look at this. And they had melatonin where it ranged from 10% of what was on the, on the milligram dosage to like 400%.

Now, some of this is not the fault of the company, because as we have found out that when we get raw product shipped, we test top, middle and bottom because unfortunately when people are ordering raw product from other countries to save money, they will fill with filler and then put only the top portion of it with the actual product and the company pays for that. So what happened in that one study was 79% of the companies they were trying to do the right thing they’re assuming and you literally have to do that because if you’re ordering raw products
from other countries, sometimes these big that come in and you it’s just not exactly the same, same quality. I think the key here for the listeners is to make sure that when they’re going to take a supplement really drill down on is has this been approved by third party by approve is a bit of a can be It can be a tough word to use sometimes a verification process to verify what’s in there is what the claim is, is in there, that there’s not a contaminant. So for example, with Riduzone, we have something called a new dietary ingredient designation from the FDA as, as many listeners may be aware, supplements are not FDA certified. There’s no certification process.
But what the FDA can do is say this is safe, we regarded as safe. So one of the things we’re most proud about with red zone when we brought it to market, we spent a lot of time and effort and resources to get that MDI designation from the FDA that says, This is safe. The FDA says is this is that what the FDA knowledge stamp is? That’s correct. That’s exactly what the acknowledgment is. So and again, it’s a language issue. You want to be very
careful, but that acknowledgement means the FDA has said has acknowledged this as a safe as a safe product.

Riduzone is really one of the few products I know that even carries that that seal of approval from the FDA, which is a huge endorsement. Yeah,

we were actually really looking into that we’re like, man, how did what what is that because you start looking into it and there’s so much confusion with us. So let’s talk about our colleagues. That are, well, a lot of doctors don’t really understand this industry either. And so when we start talking about this, so when a nutritionist starts talking about diet starts talking about supplements, sometimes a lot of doctors stick their head in the
sand and just say, Well, I, I haven’t seen the literature. I don’t know what that says drug rep hasn’t brought it in. Nobody’s brought lunch to me. And that’s what we’re really trying to overcome. So what this box is going to represent is it’s the health box. It’s not just trying to make sure that you can have a few of these key things which I want to ask you one question I would ask Jay, this also, when I went to medical school, you could not be vitamin D deficient if you live south of Nebraska. And now everyone’s vitamin D deficient, what’s going on with this?

Well, you know, it’s I think it’s interesting Canada when when Rachel was talking about vitamin D being one of the essential supplement she recommends her clients. You remember when we started seeing bloodwork coming from referring doctors, primary care doctors sending his patients and I’d see these vital D testing Like what? What, you know, we didn’t train about vitamin D deficiency. This is not something that was in our math. And now it’s endemic. I mean, it’s it’s an epidemic and and as Rachel touched on a few minutes ago, I think it was under recognized and under treated and and and so I think there now that awareness and that knowledge is taken over but but you’re right i mean it, that’s the example. I mean, there’s these and going back to your point earlier, the way we’re trained, we don’t have a framework to understand things that are outside the paradigm and and what actually what I’ll give Ken a lot of credit for is he’s your pioneer in a lot you know, saying look, there’s a
mechanism in a way to do this and with its structured, recognized, clinically valid, safe, and and and with that we can we can be trust in our patients can trust us when we recommend this stuff. And that’s new and that’s
different. We haven’t had that we didn’t come through when we came to training that wasn’t there for things that we have in the box or things like bridges and things like that.

Absolutely. Same thing. When in the world of nutrition for you. I mean, there’s lots of people out there who say that I’m a nutritionist, and then they’ll they’ll get about knee deep. They get some followers and they get some
clients. And that’s kind of where it stops. But that’s not how you’ve approached really anything like that.

No. And I think what I see oftentimes is, you know, you can lose weight, but that doesn’t make you a health expert. And that doesn’t even make you healthy nonetheless. So, nutrition goes back to more than just the way we look. It goes back to how we feel, it’s it goes back to everything that we’re putting into our body and health is even more than just taking our vitamins or taking our supplements and working on exercise. It’s even mindset. I mean, it’s the whole picture. And that’s really what goes back to that functional matter, that medicine aspect. So it’s looking at that whole lifestyle approach.

We, I tell my patients that people come in and they will talk about the different prescription drugs that are there. And they talked about adding, you know, this lifespan years when we start giving people drugs and this drug plus this drug plus this drug, you know, we’re improving the lifespan I tell my patients, how’s your health
span, I want to make sure that you are healthy at the age that you want to be. We need to improve health span not lifespan. And I think we do that through proper lifestyle functional ways.

And I think everyone comes in just wanting that quick fix, they go to the doctor, and they just want to be handed you know, a medication for their cholesterol and fixed and expect that to fix all of their issues. And sure, maybe that will lower their cholesterol, but that’s probably not going to be their only issue. If they’re out of shape and overweight, they’re going to have a whole host of issues as well, too. So you know, addressing one thing with medication that just kind of putting a bandaid over that issue, which really we want to get back to that root cause so we can really get to that optimal health.

Unfortunately, I’ve heard it best from Naveen Jain, the CEO of Viome. Yeah, we met him at a at a conference

with him. Yeah. And so we’ve had some mutual friends. And he was giving a lecture and he said unfortunately, we have created an entity that preys on itself, it needs disease to keep going. We have hospitals that run we’ve got pharmaceutical industries, we’ve got this. And it’s almost a self perpetuating issue where it’s a, the healthcare industry needs disease to keep going, at least in the Western world now look at how reimbursement works and how that kind of dictates who gets the priority in the O R. I mean, it was what 15 years ago, cardiac procedures in the cath lab were chock full, and they were people had third party investments specifically in that
specialty and now the reimbursements been trimmed down and it’s falling to other places. Whether it happens to be you can get a hiatal hernia repair while you end up getting a gastric sleeve. And that’s where the money is now. So that kind of ends up dictating the the ideas in terms of who’s going to be treated in bulk and in mass and this approach is far different. What you said about Jay, what you said about Ken is Spot on. But you’re no
stranger to that yourself. That’s how you ended up being the CEO, cmo Riduzone. There’s, there’s a reason why an altruistic doc ended up being the CMO of a company like Riduzone, it’s because you knew there was a better
answer than just relying on pharmaceuticals. Riduzone is it’s made with from a natural ingredient.

You know, this is a great topic and could be a show or shows on itself about how American medicine is. We’re really good at the heroic interventions, the stopping the heart attack, saving the heart, stopping the bleeding ulcer, we’re really good at that stuff. What we’re not good at or what we’re kind of middle of the road at, at least by all the lot of the conventional metrics is prevention, keeping us from getting to that point in the first place. So you know, whether it’s a simple intervention, or I shouldn’t say simple where there’s a more fundamental intervention, when Rachel sits down with a client says let’s start to get some of these things in order from basic what you’re putting in your body, fitness, etc. to something like Riduzone which is helping curb your appetite. In a safe, non stimulant something that we produce in our own bodies method to prevent those downstream sick wellif of obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, etc, etc. Yeah, I mean, I think it’s a much more rewarding. We trained Ken and I trained where we were good at those heroically we can do those. But what we didn’t train with or what didn’t come naturally, and was a challenge to me. And kind of what got me excited was that ability
to say, let’s take that experience and go from a different side now. See if we can help folks in a different way.

I just, I just thought of something. Hear me.

Coming up next half hour, we got Dr. Jay Yepuri hosting the mundane intervention and no more heroic interventions follow Dr. Jay You’re very well he explains mundane ways to improve your health. Check your manscape at the door

with no social media involved, absolutely.

like that What did you feel like that it was like to step outside the the comfort zone of the norm to because that’s no easy task.

Well, it’s a challenge right? And again, you you have the naysayers in conventional we call allopathic Western medicine that say there’s not a there’s not a research study that looks at this. There’s no literature based on this. There’s not multiple randomized controlled trials, double blinded placebo controlled trials that say, this is better x is better than why. But that’s the challenge, right? I mean, it’s, it’s to reconcile what you want to do that’s right for the patient client, whomever with with, with with science and science that may not be as well vetted or understood yet but that we want to get there.

I want to comment on that really quick because we’ve had two guests on that, that basically are hindered by the fact that the science is not in what they call more reputable journals. So James Carroll that has the photobiomodulation, shocked while he was on the show, I found tons on PubMed, and asked how is this not more used is like because people quote that the journals aren’t really there. Now, Dr. Wade McKenna, same thing on stem cells, what in the world now we did this without trying to we have a randomized placebo controlled trial. We’ve got one where its failure there in what we would call whatever what you and I would call esoteric journals. But the reality is, I’ve talked to a lot of functional gastroenterologist who’ve done some incredible work in Louisville, Kentucky, one of my favorite Dr. Gerald, Gerald Dryden, former faculty of mine was a medical

love that

I love that guy always. And he actually studied EC GC, green tree green tea extract and all sort of kaleidos had really good results and he got relegated and he’s a PhD in a full bird Colonel and like the guy’s academic,
and he got relegated to a poster presentation and couldn’t even get it published. And we had a long talk about it where he’s like, there is a certain bias towards Big Pharma getting published there. So Keep in mind that just because there’s not literature that is being handed to you by a drug rep does not mean that there’s not
literature out there. When we have our graduate student finding literature, oh, by the way, we found 10s of thousands of articles to dispute different arguments that we’ve had like yesterday’s argument, right? So it’s very interesting because doctors will say that they’ll go, Oh, I need more literature. So without trying to I would sit there look at people go, What do you need? How many? What’s your number? No, it’s it’s the industry that we have created. Unfortunately, I want to change that. What the industry Did you hit the nail on the head, it’s the industry. So who’s the editor of the premier journal? It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. He satisfies, check certain boxes off because and it’s things that are going to be recognized and things are going to be

it what what the what the what his cohort things is acceptable. That doesn’t necessarily make mean that something from a journal that’s not as well recognized means it’s less valid. It’s just that because it didn’t check those boxes often our colleagues may are going to say, Well, I can’t do that. I can’t recommend

that. I think it’d be so cool to change the healthcare landscape in an environment. I want to see DFW change so that we help people sleep we help people with their diet, we help them with their supplements. And that’s data that we can use. Oh look, the DFW Metroplex started out with the DHAT health box to give them information to give them encouragement to give them exercise advice, they’re going to get that delivered to their house. And I
just want to add we only have about 30 seconds until we have our last break but we can talk in the next half hour a little bit about even though it’s in our backyard, this is the launch zone of DFW but if you happen to be watching anywhere else, anybody in the US can go to DHATbox.com. To get all the information to move forward in the next half hour. We’re going to revisit Rachel’s list on things that would be in this box if you were to be a
recipient of it. What you can You to grow your box to develop your, your value within that box, save money and everything else. I want to talk

about the science of Riduzone also,

then we’re gonna do all that stuff. We’re not going to be limited except my time.

Dr. Ken brown here host of gut check project with my co host Eric Rieger. I’ve seen in my practice that I’ll try and tell us a whole lot more than just the bloating product.

Yes, it does a whole lot more than just exploding because of the polyphenols that you find in Atrantil. What are some of the things that these polyphenols do where these probably females can help you have more energy and
polyphenols are great for athletes.

It sounds like it’s gonna help a whole lot more people than just load and go to love my tummy.com slash Spoony.

Alright, welcome back it is going to be the last half hour today’s episode nine get checked project deck I mean every time we come back I’m like What the heck? What the hell happened before how did this go so fast?

I know and then you know what I’m also thinking is that we’re This is almost every single show at this point. I come in late and our two guests came in late because it was potty break. I we got to put set up some porta potties or something. It doesn’t make sense

right outside the door. All we have is better than diapers.

Yeah. Yes, next week next week, we’re going to take a camera outside and you’ll see that just be on this door. It’s just a rotaries, it’s all it is and everybody has to go out there

and in sandpaper for a while anyway.

Oh, this is awesome. I just got messaged. I want to know more about red zone. Let’s go you go. That’s exactly where we’re

headed. That is a way to tee something up. All right,

Dr. Jay, what about it? It’s a great segue so Riduzone our ID used to and he is its sole ingredient is something called now I’ll say it once and then all abbreviated oil F and Olamide. No, go ahead can

Sorry about that. Where were you earlier when I was trying to say you should have a you know, there’ll be a test at the end.

Say it 10 times really fast with the tongue teaser. Oh EA is is what the conventional abbreviation is only all ethanol mine. So Bouvier is actually a Endocannabinoid as I’m sure you’ve discussed or been are discussed on the show before in canon in, in other in other in other forums. That’s actually made in the human small intestine in the human gut, and its role is to actually bind to a receptor in the lining of the gut that has some downstream
effects biochemically. The two basic ones are one to send a signal to the satiety center of the brain to say I’m full and the other is a whole host of downstream biochemical processes that have to do with why policies or
break down a fat use of use of fat as a as a substrate for energy and then also have effects on regulation of blood sugar. So insulin and glucagon levels that regulate blood sugar, the the receptor or the this idea of a lock and key where the receptors the lock and otas the key. This is kind of a basic foundation for how things in our
body work right. So in this scenario, the receptor for regio EA is something called p par alpha. as Ken knows, is a is a as a target for it, and as Eric knows, is a target for a lot of pharmaceutical agents out there for particularly management of diabetes. What’s interesting is those pharmaceutical agents don’t have the effects that Reggie zone has in terms of making you feel full and and also the beneficial effects on fat metabolism, increasing metabolism, and increasing fat breakdown and favorable cholesterol profiles. So how the, the appetite suppressing property works is via the Vegas nerve, a signal directly to the satiety center in the brain that says I feel full and it doesn’t cross the blood brain barrier, and it doesn’t stimulate the heart. So the most important thing here with a lot of this prescription weight loss agents and Rachel I’m sure is familiar with this is all those horrible stories we’ve heard about in Canada. I’ve seen these folks where they might have a fatal heart rhythm abnormality Some of the from some of the prescription agents or this stuff crosses the blood brain barrier, so it interacts with other medications that these folks may be on. We don’t have any of those problems with Richie zone. It’s not an issue with it. That’s kind of the 30,000 foot view.

Let me ask about society thing, does it affect leptin or ghrelin at all, and the ghrelin being the one that makes you hungry leptin making you fearful?

It does those mechanisms are not as well elucidated or understood there. There are over 250 peer reviewed journal articles, talking about journal, peer reviewed journals, and all and many and top tier journals looking at reducing otas safety and efficacy across a spectrum of animal and in some human models as well. So but yeah, there’s definitely those mechanisms are involved, but not as well well fleshed out yet.

So I’m gonna tee up for something. The Mediterranean diet seems to do a lot of these things. Anything in the Mediterranean diet that could

well be tied to that is A great point. So where are we at? So what we have is a is a way to do extract from olive oil. So, only open Olamide are only a is a fatty acid metabolite. So it’s a derivative of fatty acids of a fatty acid. And it’s actually found in olive oil. But the problem is to get the amount of OEA in one bottle of virgin you’d have to drink like 12 liters of, of olive oil, which I’m not sure that goes over. I’m not sure Rachel wouldn’t recommend it to Rachel Ghazal You know, I’m going to go on a limb here and just say that probably not practical appetizer just like mommy’s do a lot of Yeah, exactly. So we have a method to extract from all this method was actually devised University, California, Irvine, little over 15 years ago. And so we have that technology. And, and and are being an edit brought it to market.

So I know that you’re the Chief Medical Officer but you’re also involved in the business with it. Now I’m involved with the business of this. And I’m essentially the chief medical officer. Also we got people that run the company, and they do a great job of that. But so it was the technology to get it was 15 years. Do you know the history of the company to get where they’re at right now?

Yeah. So let me back up a little bit and talk about the technology. So the original method, again, was developed at UC Irvine. And without getting too deep in the weeds about it, a one of the big players in the pharmaceutical space about 15 years ago acquired the technology. So how a lot of this works is universities and research institutes that think they have a technology that could be of commercial viability or a broader use. They’ll put those out there and investors will will kind of check these out and decide if who people they may be interested in maybe a commercial application for this. So they’ll take it down the road, a big pharma company acquired that was going on a tear acquiring technologies in the cholesterol weight loss space about 15 years ago. They bought it and shelved it is basically the ball Other people. You want competition? Yeah, they didn’t want the competition. And so when that company got acquired that technology reverted back to the university, instead, it was available for someone else to pick up. And that’s basically how we found it.

Okay, well, that I mean, that sounds very similar in terms of what’s happened with a lot of natural solutions, Is it someone will end up buying the technology and they want to sit on and because it inevitably comes competition for their long projected project that they think is going to give them more margin when, in truth, generally, nature is going to almost always be the solution that’s going to be better than pharmaceuticals. You, you
listed off tons of side effects from pharmaceuticals before. So essentially, we’re just avoiding all that. Rachel’s been a gigantic proponent for altran to for quite some time. You made the comparison about how many ever gallons of evolvability that you had that you’d have to have, using some of the science that we had from the polythene, all experts in the 10 and experts with Atrantil to one of the best examples we had for athletes. Was you would typically have to consume five bowls, whole cherries to get one day’s supply of polyphenols that you find not john teal. Very, very similar because if you were to do that cherries are great for you blueberries that many blueberries be great for you. But that’s just way too much fructose probably for one day.

Yeah. And I actually started taking a train tail initially because of for my gut health overall and for bloating. But what I found was it actually did help me a lot with workout, especially with post workout recovery as well, too. So I know that was one of the things that probably females actually has a great impact on is delaying that Dom so that delayed onset muscle soreness so you can recover faster, you can get back in the gym faster, and you can grow muscle lose fat at a at a much faster rate.

But that being said, just

super quick. I apologize. I had to step out. I got a few messages were a few people said that we went off the air. That means you were listening long enough that you need to refresh your browser which is good news. That means that they’ve been paying attention the whole time. So we’re still On the air, just refresh your browser if you’ve been with us since the beginning, so I just want to say that’s why I stepped out of the room. I’m like, oh, are we? But we’re still we’re still on everywhere. So your host and IT Director, Dr. Kenneth Brown. Anyway,

a man of many hats.

So many hats, so many hats. Well, Rachel, if you don’t mind, you had a list. And just to refresh the audience, and before I forget, D head box, calm D head box calm. If you just want to sign up to simply learn more, you can go there and you will be notified of all the information as it’s made available, I believe, early next week. That being said, Rachel, you listed off for base supplies supplements. Right? And so I’m sorry, I don’t mean to cut you off. He said it was a reputable probiotic.

a probiotic, a good quality multivitamin of vitamin D and omega three fish oil.

So one of the things that the president of D had Jim Hakert was very excited about whenever he decided to hop on board and get out get all of the physicians aligned was that this is an opportunity to make certain that we’re
putting the right supplements in front of people. So let’s talk a little bit about how this works. So if somebody were to sign up for the DHAT box, the way I understand it is they’re going to get to

upscale high core products, which would be on teal, and as you mentioned, a reputable probiotic. And we met Karen Krishnan, the CEO, and researcher for Megaspore, which actually delivers bacteria to where it belongs. So one of the things that so the CEO of megaspore is that they have the probiotic in spore form, which is a higher likelihood of getting to the colon where it can then be in the right environment and flourish. And so the science behind that is kind of cool. It’s like a little next level of probiotic kind of thing. So

the cool thing is, is normally people get recommended Megaspore, though directly from a physician, so they partnered with D, hence health box. Simply because of Dr. Jay, you can you and your colleagues putting in that input that that’s what belongs in a box like this. And so they’ve reduced that cost. It’s not it’s not it’s not completely inexpensive, it’s affordable but it’s not inexpensive but they they want people to be able to get healthy they want people to be able to maintain their health. So they’ve they’ve trimmed their costs the same thing without trying to the same thing with with the other supplements that they Rachel listed. But the really, really important thing is that whether something’s in the core box or not, it doesn’t stop there. So listeners you’ve all heard, Dr. Jay reference Riduzone, Riduzone is soon going to be a part of the marketplace. And this is a whole nother world simply to those who joined this box. You’re gonna have access to things that are good for your brain health, it’ll help you sleep. We’re talking with brain FM about adding their products simply to this box.

What we want to offer is

Putting your health in your hands, which is that right there on the front of that. So this is going to continue to grow. We’ve partnered with Stephen Adele of member box and what you’re going to be able to do is go to an online store now everybody that’s hearing this, you’re getting basically the pre launch information about this. So go over there, it’s at the box D hat box.com. d hat box.com. In addition to that, the we’re going to make sure that you become healthier, but we get people like Rachel contributing to giving exercise advice. We’ve got people like Dr. Jay aperi, that’s going to review articles and write things and we’re going to offer we are actually
teamed up with multiple authors, you may get a book free in the box that comes in there. So we’re really excited. The bottom line is my ultimate goal, just like we were talking about is to change the land. state of health in this area, I’m with two phenomenal professionals that that’s your ultimate goal. Anyways, this is a way to get
it out a little bit bigger a little further. Since we’re the first doing this, we can go beyond DFW we can go to we want everyone sharing this. So if you’re listening to this, if you’re sharing it, are you gonna watch it
later? Just send it to your mom, send it to your sister, your whoever it is say, Hey, I think this is something that you would enjoy

their that question and and as Dr. Jay said earlier, it’s a win win win for everyone. You win because you’re getting the guidance of people that you trust your physicians already at home. So we’re immediately already targeting the patients that come in and giving them this opportunity and letting them know they if this works for you pass it on to your family members. We’re getting a huge benefit because we have a nutritionist weighing in on the way that supplements are benefiting people out the outside and beyond the clinic and what people are turning to
and then they actually get to save money and they get enough that they need every single month. So you see Money, you get guidance, you know that everything in the box is vetted. You’re then shown endorsed products that you may or may not wish to add to your box each month. All in all, it takes a lot of the guesswork and it saves money out of your pocket book.

Yeah. And I just got texted again by Magnus, Magnus von Magnussen. And he says that my box won’t fit. That’s a problem that we didn’t do very well. But we’ll go ahead and handle that. So if you’re a strong man, we can get your own member box there.

He has a lot of input from from the two days on ESPN. It’s really weird that he he so often. Well, Rachel, tell me a little bit more about what it’s like to collaborate with a gastroenterology group and helping them and then probably what changing that landscape is going to do for you as you try to reach other people.

Yeah, so my philosophy with my nutrition practice is also similar to Dr. Kathy Brown says that health begins with the gut. So looking at that gut first making sure we have optimal digestion because everything goes back to that guide our energy levels, the way we absorb nutrients, carbs, fats and protein or micronutrients, it’s going to affect every bodily process. So working with a gastroenterologist that’s going to be awesome for a lot of my clients because nutrition is the foundation fitness is going to play a big part and then going back to that gut so having the expertise of Dr. Brown from that gastroenterologist and point I’m really creates that bigger picture. It is it’s not

Yeah, Dr. Kenneth Brown, it’s you guys everybody Nyan have some of the best doctors in the country.

Well and you know that that that hits the nail on the head, I mean, this is it that that what’s in the box is curated and supported by a company or a practice of 90 board certified gastroenterologist. And I don’t know where you could go to get that kind of that kind of bat kind of checkbox. I can trust what’s in there.

Are you gonna get 90 doctors to agree on something

Um, let’s talk about some of our doctors for a second here. Because I think whenever I travel when I talk to people, Eric and I are part of several entrepreneur groups, and it is fascinating when I go and talk to people, and they’re like, you have 90 doctors, I’m like, yeah, we’ve got in our own group. We’ve got pancreas specialist,
Paul ternasky. Well in in my pod, it’s going to be accurate and Goldschmidt. And they do incredible things. They do stuff that you’re like, What are you guys doing? This is nuts. I mean, you’re literally doing surgery from
the inside. But you do endoscopic ultrasound yourself, which is a very advanced technique. And did you get extra training in that? Or how did that

Yeah, unfortunately, to be able to learn these advanced techniques, and we’re blessed in deat to have several specialists trained in these kind of next level techniques and procedures. I say Unfortunately, it does take an extra year to to depending on when you came out of training, but beyond our usual training paradigm, to get to learn those techniques. And it’s it’s not just learning how to do the procedure. It’s also select Being the patient, right who needs and who doesn’t need them. Because I think that’s as important as anything else, making sure you’re doing the right thing for the patient in the right way, and offering them something as opposed to not. And so we’ve been very fortunate with D hat to have this expertise, you know, across the Metroplex and being able
to offer that and in different areas where that’s where, where I am here, in the mid cities and Northeast tyrunt, to out in plain own northern suburbs, or in the heart of Dallas, or out for the west of Fort Worth.

The reason why I wanted to bring that up is because when you get your box we have a connect with the hat right here. One of the things I really want to do is I want the doesn’t have to be D hat, I’m sorry, doesn’t have to be DFW, it can be anywhere that we have these experts. So if we start getting a series of social media questions,
we can actually put something together put it in the box. So these are the most common questions we’re getting, you know, who was the right person that to undergo this? For instance, Rachel, we were talking on the other show over there something that really shocked me, tell me about the message. grows, meaning how do you divide up your calories to stay so fit?

Well, macronutrients are essentially your carbs, fats and proteins. So basically they’re going to be dependent and different for each person. There are fundamentals when it comes to nutrition that applies to everyone. I mean, we all need to be eating whole foods, we all need to be, you know, getting a lot of different nutritional intakes, but the actual macronutrients is dependent on each person. So for example, you wouldn’t put someone who is 55 years old, trying to lose 40 pounds of fat on a high carbohydrate diet, versus someone who’s maybe an Olympic athlete who’s 25 years old, and they’re trying to maybe build muscle they would do a very different
macronutrient intake where they would require a much higher carbohydrate intake. So macronutrients in itself, so how much carbs, fats and protein you need, overall calorie intake is going to very much depend on an individual
basis. But there are the fundamentals that do apply all across the board which it goes back to the Sources of our food that we’re eating and basically getting back to those whole food sources

How would you divide up the macros if let’s say one of your clients was a former bikini model now turned gastroenterologist that does endoscopic ultrasound.

So what I like to do

common demographic comes across and Rachel’s

huge audience.

Former bikini model gastroenterologist, well, what I like to do in my practice and I got

back from that is incredible.

Yes, God has his show, he has an algorithm ready to Yeah,

I actually do have an algorithm so I based protein intake off of the skeletal muscle mass of that person. So your protein intake is going to be different for each person, how much protein I need is going to be different for how much protein you need. It’s going to be based on that into the individual on how much protein they need to support their skeletal muscle mass. So protein is very satiating to and helps us maintain our skeletal muscle mass, and also helps us build it. So like people who are working out in the gym, and then I based their carbohydrate intake basically off of their activity level. So for example, going back to that Olympic athlete, they’re going to need a much higher carbohydrate intake than let’s say, someone who is going to be maybe working a desk job more sedentary, so kind of basing that carbohydrate intake based off of activity levels, and then the remainder coming from fat sources. And it’s true not all fats or calories are created equal. So getting those healthy fats sources coming from avocados, wild caught fish, nuts and seeds, olive oils, so those are going to be the very
healthy fats that are going to be beneficial on help with hormone production. They’re going to help us again feel full and satisfied.

We need to introduce you to our friend, Gabrielle lions. Oh, yeah, yeah. She is a physician in New York and actually Manhattan and her whole process. She’s I think she’s a former former fitness competitor. I think that is She focuses on muscle centric medicine where she believes that if we can maintain muscle mass, you’ll improve insulin sensitivity, you’ll decrease your fat and so it’s all about trying to maintain that as we age. And trying to do that because that’s one of the things that happens is that we tend to lose muscle as we age and then all
the other you know, issue starts happening.

So the approach in her practice is now is based around anti aging and using natural means to accomplish that. I believe, if that’s been an attorney,

well, she’s usually She must be traveling to the media we’re going to because she usually messages us and asked and gets involved because we’re gonna end up having her on the show. She’s super smart and somebody that’s kind of very similar path like it very similar. Yeah, had kind of some gut issues and stuff and overcame them and became a fitness competitor. And so yeah, this is super exciting. The box the head box, calm, the

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So one of the things I want to do here is we got to come up with a name for j show. Okay.

So what would it be? Like encourage everyone to

do we include manscaping in that in that name, you know what I

think it’s considering your pedigree and where you come from, it may diminish your brand just a little bit, little bit.

Yeah, I put it out there at least to start the conversation.

But you are you are a Louisville Cardinal basketball fan. Correct. Very much so. So and what was the the gentleman’s name who, who had the broken bone and the

Oh, Kevin where Kevin Where? Yeah, we’re absolutely in our last national championship which is taken away from us by the NCAA because of some scandal but that’s okay.

Okay, but now looking at the FBI investigation now name a name of college team that’s not it’s probably not it least involved in something to get to that point because They’ve got Kansas get North Carolina and what they’re doing is they’re choosing to go

yeah they’ve picked the ones they think that they can make the best example of and the ones that they want to protect they’re going to protect them

yeah it’s that’s the lifeblood of it that’s that’s who they want to protect and if somebody else comes skating through they don’t really like that or they’re going to make the example out of them if they can get any dirt out are they doing to them? I’m actually I’m familiar with this. Oh, well and Jay probably even pontificate just
as much as I can on this whole thing. I mean, you so you got Kansas Texas Tech and believe you in Kentucky very

clearly, you and Eric need to have a basketball shows when it comes to

sports talk. Sports Talk Radio tied in with nutritional, food nutrition, I think we can.

support in sports outfits were basically caught on phone and recorded that they were basically paying players under the table for them to attend certain universities they would be committed somewhere else may be influenced by basically the AAU circuit or something else like that to get endorsements. Simply so they would choose a different school and then in a third party and sometimes even a fourth party way, the school would benefit or another coach would be paid for it. So that it looked like it wasn’t happening. But too many people have loose lips,
loose lips sink ships. The funny thing that I like about that, though, is it’s really no different than what we’re talking about perception of understanding reputable sources, quote unquote sources for journalists are journalistic integrity and clinical studies, who you want to believe in who you don’t and it’s either the established blueblood but where the money is, and you can take that same parallel to the FDA, and the blue blood is it pharmaceutical industry and the the offshoot winning national championship titles like Louisville, or almost getting there like Texas Tech, that’s not necessarily who they want to win so they could find something wrong. That’s who they’re going to sweep the legs on. It’s no different when you are a natural when your natural solution for serious problems really no different.

Yeah, picking your scapegoat to get your message across without damaging those who you feel like kind of perpetuate the industry that the status quo the norm that’s across the board, whether it’s college basketball or the pharmaceutical healthcare, disease management industry, as we’ve touched on through throughout the show.

Interesting, but I learned something today this is great. I need to start paying more attention to the whole NCAA basketball scene, it directly affects your practice can

I don’t mean ask me any questions on that.

So anybody that’s listening, I gotta we gotta convince Dr. J up to have his own show and we got to come up with a title for you. Let’s start with the title and work our way backwards. So any running titles in your brain

not even to start with to be honest with you this that while I’ve been bouncing this around for a little bit I been called the task on the name has not exactly and now I’m caught now I’m khatola but I’m usually not a shortage for word.

nomina shortage for work.

I do want to say that I don’t really think that the mundane interventions are good now, i

think i think i think the mundane and anything that you’re trying to get someone excited about probably probably kind

of healthy all day with the GI Dr. J.

Dr. J. So with Rachel, the thing that I want to say manscape

so with Rachel, you got this huge influence over people. We need to get something that you have in this box. So is it going to be a clothing line? So it can be a cookbook? sure you have your own line of supplements, or we can do like the revamped we know, but back to the p90x and beach bodies. today. We can get you a whole series of DVD workout videos. Yeah.

It could all go in that box.

That’s right. You can all be there. D hat box.com if you’d like to be sure that you are one of the first to get the information on the box it’s I once again we’re down to a little over a minute. The the two hours raised by episode nine is almost completed.

This was great. There’s so much more to cover and I think both of you guys could have your own show completely and cover a lot of issues but the healthy all day with the GI doc Jay, I’m liking it.

I like the there’s that the cadence, the rhyme get a lot of those syllable syllables.

It’s good.

Fastest on the longest in the box,

the bikini model for my bikini modeling day so definitely open the box you can

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Awesome. You guys. Thank you so much for taking the time to come on. We love spreading the news. We have the very similar message which ultimately is everyone needs to be healthier. Let’s put health in your hands. That’s our goal. Rachel.

Right on Jay. Anything else? Thank you for having us.